
This is part of a “Philosophical Discussion”
Someone pointed out the need for honesty in religion.
In a very big way, yes, I agree.
But Connie brings up a good point
honest about what?
A major reason I have been inspired to deepen my insights
into Spiritual philosophies, are on account of
all the many areas where the church was not honest.
I understand that the individual person that currently may be
speaking the church truth is not aware that they, themselves
are being dishonest.
The blind has been following the blind for so long
that both truth and honesty have been lost
in the quagmire of this religious paradigm.
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The first dishonest point is
that the main religion in america has become
what other philosophers refer to as mythic literal
In that the church demands that their followers consider
all the literally man made up myths, magic, and miracles
to be the literal truth.
For anyone not to buy into that dishonest demand
is deemed worthy of punishment

Typically to be roasted and tortured for eternity
by an all loving pro-life˜god
which also points out a few more points of dishonesty.
The next profound point of dishonesty is:
Americas leading religion states that
only their religion is only way to God.
Then,
Just about each of the 66,000 individual denominations
each say that only their denomination is the only way to god.
Then,
Particularly with southern Baptist churches:
They will state that:
Only their church has the right way to god.
This list of dishonesty with the church goes on and on
The church is at best being dishonest about
significant atrocities it has committed,
its worse than how they portray the devil and evil
more made-up myths that are not real,
yet,
they mislead their followers with such lies.
In the eyes of the church, I may seem like a weird
because
I think torturing just one person to death is
Bad.
But the church has the blood of over 100 million innocents
all tortured to death out of respect for that all loving pro-life god.
Note:
Contradictions and lies a very fine line, but they point to
Dishonesty.
Unless you firmly believe in your heart of hearts
that torturing to death innocent people for some made up god
is the version of morality that you stand for and resonate with
then abandoning all critical thinking and going to church is your only way.
Otherwise,
All open-minded people that still have the ability to use critical thinking
must ask themselves
What else is the church wrong about?
This whole religion is based on dishonesty.
Jesus was said to be a real person,
born and living at a time when the bible states
Yet,
There is no contemporary references by any of his so called followers
or even his enemies
Although there are heaps of written documents of that time,
none even remotely mention anyone remotely close to what
the story of Jesus states there was.
For more details on this, please check this out:
Contradictions of Christianity and the Pitfalls of Politics

Perhaps the biggest dishonestly is:
The church states, with a straight face, that they are
pro-life
Yet,
In the bible,
it tells the story of how the unlimited powerful god,
was so upset with his children, his creations,
that he was overcome with unevolved egotistical traits of
anger, rage, jealousy, revenge and
murder.
As this so called all loving pro-life god murdered every
man, woman, and child of every species on the planet
except for the few on the mythic ark.

If there ever was any truth to the idea of “sin
The church embodies it.
The church could have been a unifying organization
that brought all of Gods Children together in peaceful unity
But Noooooo.
Every major war since religions were made up
was fought for unevolved childish naive projections
of what each type of religion deemed to be Gods will
All of this dishonesty has been a bane to humanity
since they first made it all up.
Which is a shame!
Because,
Every person born has an inherent curiosity to connect
with some part of themselves
Somewhere within them,
they feel their Inner most heart or soul, or spirit
something that connects them with a bigger, larger, wider aspect.
They are inspired to find that sacred Ground of Being
that reveals how their life and all life can make sense
in a way they can experience
the inseparable nature we all have in common.
This may sound like:
Divinity
But our True Nature and whatever the concept of God is
Ineffable.
Words can never reveal these Divine Wisdoms.
Only by deep Self Enquiry
during the deepest states of human consciousness
can these Insights be understood by those experiences.
Whether this is during the Christians Centering Prayer,
which is a 10 day intense prayer/meditation/contemplation endeavor
which is very similar to the Buddhist and Hindu Vipassana
By any skillful means, this can reveal ‘Divinity’ to those so inspired
with the volition to find the Right Effort
These Divine Wisdoms will come
As natural as the falling rain
But only if we let them.
They say:
If you want to know ˜God
You must know yourself.
And then
One will know these Wisdoms experimentally that
We are all inseparable from all that is.
All traditions state that the essence of God
All that is.
Forget everything that anyone has stated about God
For God is far beyond anything that can be put into
the limitations of words.
I feel the church is way beyond the ability of being honest on so many aspects.
If anyone wants to find the Ultimate Truths
They must start searching Within.
Silence is the only language God speaks
Find your Divine Inner Silence
The wordless whisper of Wisdom will Enlighten you.



